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Learnedhand21

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  • My occupation is A Dino-bird lover/Admin
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  • Hi Learned Hand. If you really want to keep doing that fanmade Dino bird thing, you should instead do it on a Ice Age Fanon or make your own Ice Age fanon wiki.

    Fanon is where you can freely post your ideas and they don't have to be real, but can become real.
    

    You could talk about all the Dino Bird stuff you want on a fanon wiki.

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  • Offences commited this time:

    • blanking information
    • submitting another adoption request with false information
    • continued disruptance
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  • Why did you add the false informations? I mean, I think the admins will block you, for the third time, and your edits will be undid, so what's the point of what you did? Even if you think those informations are true, you shouldn't put them in the pages, so that you won't be blocked.

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    Nerfmaster8
    Nerfmaster8 closed this thread because:
    waste of further time and effort in dealing with disruption
    21:48, August 14, 2017
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    • It's possible.

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  • ok, just stop pester admins on other wikis to unblock you other than community central. Your block is going to stay, end of question. I am not going to lift it, these arguments are helping no one and your refusal to listen is also a factor in the block length increase.

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    01:32, August 11, 2017
  • Learnedhand41, if you want to make pages where the Dino Birds are part of the Herd, you can do it on the Ice Age Fanon Wiki here: http://iceagefanon.wikia.com/wiki/The_Ice_Age_Fanon_Wiki:The_ScrattePedia

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  • RRabbit and others have already told you to stop adding in the dinos to the herd page as that is not accurate information. Continuous refusal to comply or acknowledge this message may result in a block.

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    Nerfmaster8
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    User blocked and restricted from talk page for duration of 2 weeks due to since deleted comments made - violation of community standards that have been in place for past few years & enforced
    18:59, June 17, 2017
  • I haven't been on this wiki for a couple of months now, but after looking at the recent discussions about the "Project of making a Sixth Film", I've seen that a few things have gone haywire. For starters, I can tell that you're a huge Ice Age fan, considering all of the praise you have for new ideas for the franchise. That's nice. But I also see that you kind of have a big problem over a franchise that's pretty much "extinct". I mean, it's just like what RRabbit42 said, you just can't expect a sixth film from happening, and attempt to force it down other people's throats, because that's what you want. It's just unessessary and honestly childish. It's ok to express your admiration for certain characters of the franchise, but you still can't force things and expect them to happen for your own benefit. I don't know if you know this, but this is a wiki, a place for others to share, add, and discuss information about a certain topic they all seem to know and love. It's not a place where you can do whatever you want and expect everyone to listen and agree with what you want and try to force it. Hopefully, you can understand what we're all trying to tell you and accept the reality of this wiki and many others. Otherwise, you'll end up being blocked for your actions. Simple as that...

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  • Learnedhand41, I need to tell you something.

    I know you want that the dino-birds will appear in the sixth movie like herd's members, but you have to understand that the movie at the end makes perfectly clear that Gavin, Gertie and Roger aren't herd's members, there are many reasons that I wrote here:  http://iceage.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Herd%27s_members

    Unless you find other reasons that show that the dino-birds are herd's members, you don't have to modify the page "Sub Zero Heroes", with adding Gavin, Gertie and Roger. If you find the reasons, I'll be happy to hear them, but until then you don't have to add the dino-birds like herd's members.

    You can't modify this Wiki on the basis of what do you like  or what do you want, you have to modify on the basis of what the movie goes to show. If these characters will be in the REAL sixth movie I'll apologize, but for now by watching the movie it's clear that Gavin, Gertie and Roger aren't herd's members.

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    • ThePoofyMammoth wrote:
      Seriously, somebody ban this kid.

      Seconded.

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    • [Panting] Sim0ns11, I'm so ashamed of you.

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  • I finished watching Collision Course last night, so now I can address the points you've been trying to make. In the movie, Gavin and his children do four things:

    1. Steal eggs from other dinosaurs
    2. Attempt to stop Buck and the others from diverting the asteroid
    3. Assist in diverting the asteroid
    4. Show up at Peaches and Julian's wedding

    It isn't stated why they steal the eggs, so we don't know if that's how they get their food, if they do it for fun, or if they trade/sell the eggs to someone else in exchange for a different kind of food. Gavin and Gertie seem to enjoy it when they steal the eggs, but Roger wishes they didn't have to.

    Buck appears to prevent them from getting the eggs on a regular basis and it gets to the point that Gavin's finally had enough, stating that Buck had just signed his own death warrant. Now, if the reason why the eggs are being stolen is that's how Gavin's family gets food, then Buck's being kind of a jerk by causing them to starve and Gavin would definitely have a reason for hating him. But overall impression I got is that Gavin's family steals eggs for fun.

    Because Gavin's fed up with Buck stopping them from stealing eggs, they go after him and overhear the plan about diverting the asteroid. Gavin decides they'll do what they can to ensure the asteroid hits because he thinks they'll be able to stay above the area of destruction. Once they finally catch up to Buck and the others, he changes his mind and decides they will help Buck with that plan.

    There's a problem with that part of the movie because why he changes his mind isn't clear. The audience sees the explanation of what's going to happen when Buck lets Crash and Eddie into his mind, but there's no indication that anyone else in the movie saw the same thing. The movie doesn't show them acting like projectors so that Manny, Diego and the rest could see what they're seeing. Gertie just suddenly realizes that she's going to die when the asteroid hits, and Gavin looks like he makes his decision because he doesn't want Gertie to die. Later, he, Gertie and Roger show up to dance at Peaches and Julian's wedding.


    So, does that qualify as reforming? Maybe partially, but the way the movie's presented, it could also be a case where Gavin's still just acting in his own best interests by temporarily helping Buck's group to keep his family alive. The movie doesn't address the situation with the eggs any further, so we don't know if Gavin's family went back to stealing eggs or if they decided to find another food source. We don't have enough information to say if they reformed or not.

    Regarding "joining the herd", that's another case where we don't have enough information to say one way or the other. They're on good enough terms with Manny and the rest that no one objects to them being at the wedding. But does that they're officially part of the herd? I'd have to say that we won't know unless a sixth movie is made and it shows them being a direct part of the events alongside Manny, Sid, Diego and everyone else. As of the end of Collision Course, we're either seeing new friends or we're seeing a temporary truce for the sake of the wedding. Again, we just don't know which one it is.

    The final point you've been making is that there will be a sixth movie. You even stated that there will be four more after that. That's just not true right now. It's what you want to happen, but no one from Blue Sky Studios has said it's officially happening. Until we see a press release, article, interview or a message on a site like Facebook or Twitter from an official source connected to the studio that they're going ahead with another movie, anything beyond Collision Course is fan fiction at this point.

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  • I know you want there to be a sixth Ice Age movie, but the fact is that as of right now, Collision Course is the last official movie. No other movies have officially been announced. If you are insisting that there is a sixth movie in production, then you need to provide proof in the form of a link to a press release, article or interview that says it's officially under way.

    I'm advising you to be careful because you're doing the same thing I've seen so many other people do: trying to take fan fiction and force people to accept that it's real. The people that do this keep at it until what they're trying to add stops being fan fiction and becomes vandalism.

    A better way to do this is what you're already doing over on the Ideas Wiki: writing about it there. Fan fiction is allowed there, so you can write whatever you want about a sixth movie. But here, it's not an official part of the Ice Age series. If they do happen to announce a sixth movie and it gets released into theaters, we can add info on it then. But for now, a sixth movie on this wiki is fan fiction.

    Please listen to what I'm saying and don't be stubborn about this. Embrace that it's fan fiction and put it in the right spot. You'll be happier if you do this.

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    • I don't want to see Blue Sky stop this. Ice Age 6 is gonna be in 2019. The Ice Age series has not come to an end yet, until Ice Age 6, Ice Age 7, Ice Age 8, Ice Age 9, and Ice Age 10.

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    • “We definitely approach each one as if this is ‘THE’ film. We never thought this is the final one, but it is a defining chapter. We leave ourselves a back door depending on how this one does. We certainly have other ideas.”

      -Galen T. Chu

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    • As I told you before, that statement means there could be another movie. You are choosing to interpret that as meaning that there will be another movie. What could be and what is are two separate things. Don't get so caught up in what you want to happen that you continue to force your fan fiction on everyone. That's gonna get you blocked real quick.

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